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« on: November 01, 2008, 06:42:50 PM »

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Jim: Shame on you trying to guess Elaine’s age, you know ladies don’t like to talk about such things. We are only as young or old as we feel. Sometimes I feel like a young kid again, as my wife keeps telling me to act my age. I wish the grandkids wouldn’t keep having birthdays as I now have a seventeen old grandson. Shudder I could be a great grandfather in a few years. I visited my parents a few weeks ago, both in there eighties and my mother is especially doing well. She goes to swimming and aerobic classes every week. Dad unfortunately has had a couple of minor strokes that has set him back. But he still thinks of me as a small boy. I get refreshed after I visit them.

Back to the subject at hand. I don’t go as far back as Jim as far as computer usage is concerned, I started taking computer classes in 1972, as I saw that in my occupation that was the trend. By 1975 I was teaching computer systems and computer languages at a local government institution and I still work as a consultant in the business. I am basically in Quality Control and it is my job to ensure that the software works and the documentation are readable and useable. The PC software we call shrink wrap software (Microsoft) and there is minimum Quality Control on this type of software and documentation, as it costs a lot of money and time to test all the different possibilities of what could go wrong. That is why there is now what we call a cottage industry of these books that Jim talks about, “The Internet for Idiots”. I personally like the “ the Dummy” series. Windows for Dummies as an example.

I started using the Internet back in 1993, or CompuServe and then moved to the Internet itself in 1994, when it was found that was the easier way to go. Even then it was an adventure and when I could look at art paintings in an Art gallery in Australia or down load documents from the US National Standards Bureau. Even I was amazed at the power of the Internet and the home PC. Way back in the 70’s we would buy these home PC kits and put them together and them program them so we could keep our golf scores. My son is into PC.s and he just bought a brand new system. The speed it has especially using an Intel 4 still amazed me, but it is only as good as the typist when you are writing a letter or document. I can’t type so even to write this epistle it takes me a few minutes. One finger at a time. It’s never too late to learn to type.

I know a few business acquaintances of mine who are in the business and I believe both of them are afraid of the computer and what it can do. One of them is high up in a company and it has been only the last couple of years that he now has a PC on his desk. Up until then he used to write all his letters by hand and give them to his secretary to type.

I am glad I asked where you all were as it was great to come into work this morning and see all the messages. Keep it coming I love to go through all of them

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 06:43:33 PM »

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That's right. Jim, it's called dry Lancashire humour! However, you haven't yet worked out my age!
Best wishes, Elaine.

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 06:44:15 PM »

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Hello Elaine,

Oh No!!, You have busted on me regarding your relative age, and now because I am a man and too proud to admit to having problems with PC usage. This all relates to the story of the 107 year old lady who has started using the internet. Let me say that news snippet was one of the more fascinating bits I have read on the bulletin-board and God-Bless that lady, which feelings I have shared with others in private communications. She is a brave soul and her actions contrast sharply with those of many others I have talked too, who are frightened of the Internet because it is so "High Tech".
And by the way, they were all men!!

My computer usage started way back in 1964. Were you born then?? At that time one had to write their own programs, and it ended up on a coil of punched tape. This was then taken to a place where there was a room-sized computer into which the tape was fed. Needless to say the power of that computer was a tiny fraction of those we have sitting at home. Later, programs were punched out on cards, and these were fed into computers, like the Fortran 1130, which was about the size of a desk.

The modern PC, with all the software already written in, has made their use, extraordinarily simple, and the "High Tech" aspect has all been done for you. Their use is more like playing a video game. Nevertheless their are problems which one has to master and that certainly was the case with me. The hand books, at least over here, appear to be written for the advanced computer user and are sometimes, at least I will freely admit to me, incomprehensible. In the states, this has been addressed by a company who provide books where things are more simply explained, and which have titles like "The Internet for Idiots", and "Word for Idiots". I have several of them. Not the least of my problems was one you mentioned, the mouse losing its legs. In my case that was cured by taking out the little compressed rubber ball, cleaning the dust off it, and blowing the dust out of the mouse interior. The ball was then free to turn in the mouse which regained its leg usage.

As to meeting a desk top PC for the first time, I can tell you, that to me it was mind boggling. The advances made in PC's since the first one arrived are also staggering, and we are only just scratching the surface. I don't know if you have ever looked inside your PC, but in it there are small chips about the size of a finger nail. At very high magnification, these are shown to consist of tens of thousands of little metal lines, like a street map, all leading to tiny little semicondutor switches. That's a nutshell simplistic description but to my mind there's a great beauty in it all. But then my perspective is that of a doddering old scientist.

It is interesting to me to see the different perspectives folks have on life. Thank God for these differences because it is what makes the world so interesting. I suspect that your note was to encourage someone to bite, just as I have done. Not I hope you will understand, a dire case of paranoia(Sp??) To get back to Meryl's note about the centenerian, I would love to know how she is doing; I suspect just fine. It seems that it is a newsworthy item and one that sould be used to encourage those who are frightened at the thought of using PCs, to give it a whirl. Then they will be able to join this bulletin board and make sly comments about one's advanced age and gender!!

I hope you will continue to stir up controversy, its fun, and trust that everything goes well in your beautiful corner of the world. Say hello to Nessie.

Warmest regards from Connecticut

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 06:44:42 PM »

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Hello Meryl,
I have sat here, watching this space ever since you posted your message. I thought that I would give everyone a wee while to join in, but I am not a bit surprised that no-one has! When you consider that most of the current posters are men, do you really think that any of them are going to admit that they are mere beginners to the net and PC's? No, it would be too much for their pride!
I had to give up my career in hospital administration years ago because of family commitments, so I wasn't around when first of all, typewriters were replaced with word-processors, then filing cabinets were replaced with computers.
I never had the opportunity even to see one close-up, until a couple of years ago. But when my daughter started her second career, this time in the Royal Navy, she gave me her PC as it wouldn't fit into her kitbag! I had absolutely no idea how to work the thing, but I reckoned that if I can work the VCR, the microwave and the washing-machine, then I was already half-way there. I was! Just plugged it in and off we go! The beauty of it all is, if I get a problem, there are all these gifted men visiiting this website, so all I need to do is ask, if I have a problem, and someone will come up with the answer. Not long ago, my mouse lost the use of it's legs, and was totally drunk, couldn't find his way around the screen. I asked on here, and Peter Hornby came straight to my rescue. Thanks, Peter!
Now, will anyone else now like to give us their tales of meeting a PC for the first time?
Best wishes, Elaine.

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A friend showed me a newspaper cutting today which I would like to share with all my new friends.
It said (quote) Nursing home resident Janet Thorpe has joined a computer class to learn how to surf the net - at the age of 107.
Hi-tech Janet, from Rotherham, is trying to trace her family tree. (unquote).
It would be interesting to hear why other new users decided to take the plunge (into the surf?) or perhaps there are other achievements made at a mature age.
I have only been clicking for a couple of months and thoroughly enjoying every moment, though my previous knowledge of computers was NIL. In fact, any form of technology is like another planet to me. When I went to buy a computer the assistant asked me what I was looking for and I replied "something in beige or grey". How ignorant can you get?
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Jim: Shame on you trying to guess Elaine’s age, you know ladies don’t like to talk about such things. We are only as young or old as we feel. Sometimes I feel like a young kid again, as my wife keeps telling me to act my age. I wish the grandkids wouldn’t keep having birthdays as I now have a seventeen old grandson. Shudder I could be a great grandfather in a few years. I visited my parents a few weeks ago, both in there eighties and my mother is especially doing well. She goes to swimming and aerobic classes every week. Dad unfortunately has had a couple of minor strokes that has set him back. But he still thinks of me as a small boy. I get refreshed after I visit them.

Back to the subject at hand. I don’t go as far back as Jim as far as computer usage is concerned, I started taking computer classes in 1972, as I saw that in my occupation that was the trend. By 1975 I was teaching computer systems and computer languages at a local government institution and I still work as a consultant in the business. I am basically in Quality Control and it is my job to ensure that the software works and the documentation are readable and useable. The PC software we call shrink wrap software (Microsoft) and there is minimum Quality Control on this type of software and documentation, as it costs a lot of money and time to test all the different possibilities of what could go wrong. That is why there is now what we call a cottage industry of these books that Jim talks about, “The Internet for Idiots”. I personally like the “ the Dummy” series. Windows for Dummies as an example.

I started using the Internet back in 1993, or CompuServe and then moved to the Internet itself in 1994, when it was found that was the easier way to go. Even then it was an adventure and when I could look at art paintings in an Art gallery in Australia or down load documents from the US National Standards Bureau. Even I was amazed at the power of the Internet and the home PC. Way back in the 70’s we would buy these home PC kits and put them together and them program them so we could keep our golf scores. My son is into PC.s and he just bought a brand new system. The speed it has especially using an Intel 4 still amazed me, but it is only as good as the typist when you are writing a letter or document. I can’t type so even to write this epistle it takes me a few minutes. One finger at a time. It’s never too late to learn to type.

I know a few business acquaintances of mine who are in the business and I believe both of them are afraid of the computer and what it can do. One of them is high up in a company and it has been only the last couple of years that he now has a PC on his desk. Up until then he used to write all his letters by hand and give them to his secretary to type.

I am glad I asked where you all were as it was great to come into work this morning and see all the messages. Keep it coming I love to go through all of them

Mike
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